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		<title>By: Branwen</title>
		<link>http://evakhurshid.com/anisah-asks-where-are-you-really-from/comment-page-1/#comment-160</link>
		<dc:creator>Branwen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Sep 2010 17:53:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anisah,

I agree passionately with what you have written, and especially with the point that there are various groups that were not considered &quot;white&quot; and have become &quot;white,&quot; and that this does not necessarily mean that they are treated as such, as your experiences and those of many others show.  But I do not agree with the last part of what Nadia says.  I have often come across this assumption, in various forms, which I find very frustrating.  As Kara says, once you are seen in all aspects as &quot;white,&quot; in a way you are not really seen to have any culture, and you have become part of the &quot;other&quot; in so many ways.  With skin so pale that I might just glow in the dark under the right circumstances (okay, a bit of an exaggeration! =) ), my father is Welsh and my mother is American, and her parents were Jewish refugees to the United States.  I too get inquisitive questions, being mistaken for Bulgarian or Romanian, Lebanese, people telling me because of the shape of my nose I must be this or that.  When a friend of mine told me she was going to the Association of Latin American Students meeting, she told me to come, because I &quot;could pass as Hispanic&quot;.   But all of this doesn&#039;t bother me as much as the cultural aspect.  I am constantly dismissed in any discussion because everyone takes one look at me and assumes that my family has been in the United States since the Mayflower.  When people do find out that I am Welsh, 99% of the time they are not at all interested in my culture.  When I tried to tell my journalism teacher in high school about how the tales of King Arthur as we learn them in school are anglesized versions of the original tales from the Mabinogion, a collection of the oral tradition from Wales, he laughed in my face and told me it wasn&#039;t true.  If I were instead South Asian and spoke with him about the Ramayana, would his reaction be the same?  I can&#039;t presume to know, but I suspect that it might be different.  Who or what is it that decides which cultures people value and recognize and which people dismiss and laugh out of the room?  Who decides which people have a contribution to make and which people do not?

I really appreciate your last point, Anisah.  I think that in many ways it is a question of being willing, and I hope that more people will be willing and daring enough to strive to be open.

Branwen</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anisah,</p>
<p>I agree passionately with what you have written, and especially with the point that there are various groups that were not considered &#8220;white&#8221; and have become &#8220;white,&#8221; and that this does not necessarily mean that they are treated as such, as your experiences and those of many others show.  But I do not agree with the last part of what Nadia says.  I have often come across this assumption, in various forms, which I find very frustrating.  As Kara says, once you are seen in all aspects as &#8220;white,&#8221; in a way you are not really seen to have any culture, and you have become part of the &#8220;other&#8221; in so many ways.  With skin so pale that I might just glow in the dark under the right circumstances (okay, a bit of an exaggeration! =) ), my father is Welsh and my mother is American, and her parents were Jewish refugees to the United States.  I too get inquisitive questions, being mistaken for Bulgarian or Romanian, Lebanese, people telling me because of the shape of my nose I must be this or that.  When a friend of mine told me she was going to the Association of Latin American Students meeting, she told me to come, because I &#8220;could pass as Hispanic&#8221;.   But all of this doesn&#8217;t bother me as much as the cultural aspect.  I am constantly dismissed in any discussion because everyone takes one look at me and assumes that my family has been in the United States since the Mayflower.  When people do find out that I am Welsh, 99% of the time they are not at all interested in my culture.  When I tried to tell my journalism teacher in high school about how the tales of King Arthur as we learn them in school are anglesized versions of the original tales from the Mabinogion, a collection of the oral tradition from Wales, he laughed in my face and told me it wasn&#8217;t true.  If I were instead South Asian and spoke with him about the Ramayana, would his reaction be the same?  I can&#8217;t presume to know, but I suspect that it might be different.  Who or what is it that decides which cultures people value and recognize and which people dismiss and laugh out of the room?  Who decides which people have a contribution to make and which people do not?</p>
<p>I really appreciate your last point, Anisah.  I think that in many ways it is a question of being willing, and I hope that more people will be willing and daring enough to strive to be open.</p>
<p>Branwen</p>
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		<title>By: Rehana Ahmed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rehana Ahmed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Sep 2010 03:39:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anisah, enjoyed reading your thoughts on the subject .  I think it sure is something to ponder about when you are asked  to put yourself in a &quot;box&quot;, but I take it as natural curiosity in its positive sense.  I reflect on the ayat from the Quran which says, &quot;O mankind I have made you into nations and tribes so that you may know each other.  The most honored amongst you is the one who is most pious.&quot;  So it is an inherent part of our being.  The problem and responsibility  is what we do with the information.  Their in lies the test for us humans. I sure was pleased to see&quot; Pakistani &quot;on the census form.  Thenon the other hand I had mixed feelings about it. 
Aunty Rehana</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anisah, enjoyed reading your thoughts on the subject .  I think it sure is something to ponder about when you are asked  to put yourself in a &#8220;box&#8221;, but I take it as natural curiosity in its positive sense.  I reflect on the ayat from the Quran which says, &#8220;O mankind I have made you into nations and tribes so that you may know each other.  The most honored amongst you is the one who is most pious.&#8221;  So it is an inherent part of our being.  The problem and responsibility  is what we do with the information.  Their in lies the test for us humans. I sure was pleased to see&#8221; Pakistani &#8220;on the census form.  Thenon the other hand I had mixed feelings about it.<br />
Aunty Rehana</p>
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		<title>By: Anisah</title>
		<link>http://evakhurshid.com/anisah-asks-where-are-you-really-from/comment-page-1/#comment-135</link>
		<dc:creator>Anisah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Aug 2010 23:03:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kara, 

You bring up an incredibly valid point, which I think further emphasizes the haziness of race as a concept. It honestly doesn&#039;t make much sense to me why people of all different ethnic and cultural backgrounds can be conveniently wedged under one word (&quot;white&quot;), which is somehow supposed to categorize them as a whole. It simply does not, but the word &quot;white&quot; appeared in colonial laws to distinguish English men from everyone else (Native Americans, African slaves, etc). &quot;Whiteness&quot; was constructed in opposition to &quot;blackness.&quot; And every other race in the United States was supposed to fall on a spectrum in between throughout history. I&#039;m speaking from a sociological standpoint here, though. 
I have studied cases of how different groups (Irish, Italian, and Middle Eastern - predominantly from the Levant region) have become &quot;white&quot; over time. Technically I&#039;m supposed to check off the &quot;white&quot; box as well because up until recently, I was considered &quot;white&quot; for being a South-Asian American. The funny thing is, I&#039;m not treated as such. I used to get stopped in the airport for looking suspicious because of my name or the fact that I am &quot;ethnic&quot; looking. But I am grateful for your perspective, Kara.

-Anisah</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kara, </p>
<p>You bring up an incredibly valid point, which I think further emphasizes the haziness of race as a concept. It honestly doesn&#8217;t make much sense to me why people of all different ethnic and cultural backgrounds can be conveniently wedged under one word (&#8220;white&#8221;), which is somehow supposed to categorize them as a whole. It simply does not, but the word &#8220;white&#8221; appeared in colonial laws to distinguish English men from everyone else (Native Americans, African slaves, etc). &#8220;Whiteness&#8221; was constructed in opposition to &#8220;blackness.&#8221; And every other race in the United States was supposed to fall on a spectrum in between throughout history. I&#8217;m speaking from a sociological standpoint here, though.<br />
I have studied cases of how different groups (Irish, Italian, and Middle Eastern &#8211; predominantly from the Levant region) have become &#8220;white&#8221; over time. Technically I&#8217;m supposed to check off the &#8220;white&#8221; box as well because up until recently, I was considered &#8220;white&#8221; for being a South-Asian American. The funny thing is, I&#8217;m not treated as such. I used to get stopped in the airport for looking suspicious because of my name or the fact that I am &#8220;ethnic&#8221; looking. But I am grateful for your perspective, Kara.</p>
<p>-Anisah</p>
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		<title>By: Kara</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Aug 2010 16:42:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This post is very interesting to me... just because I&#039;ve never really heard it put that way. Its sort of ironic that you would find the census forms to be annoying *because* of the hyphenation - I find it the opposite. The question I always wonder when looking at it is: Why does every other race get to define themselves by their place of origin, but when it comes to people of European decent, it is down to one little word, white? Why not Italian American, German American, Russian American, etc.. ? So I saw my side of it, to check the white box, as being a sort of less than - less creative, less lively, less fleshed out. White. Bland. 

Interesting, eh? Thanks for sharing. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This post is very interesting to me&#8230; just because I&#8217;ve never really heard it put that way. Its sort of ironic that you would find the census forms to be annoying *because* of the hyphenation &#8211; I find it the opposite. The question I always wonder when looking at it is: Why does every other race get to define themselves by their place of origin, but when it comes to people of European decent, it is down to one little word, white? Why not Italian American, German American, Russian American, etc.. ? So I saw my side of it, to check the white box, as being a sort of less than &#8211; less creative, less lively, less fleshed out. White. Bland. </p>
<p>Interesting, eh? Thanks for sharing. <img src='http://evakhurshid.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Nadia M.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nadia M.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jul 2010 01:11:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Love this! Had the exact same experience living here and in Pak. I feel more Desi being in the States but felt more American while in Pak. I still get spoken to in Spanish esp. when I&#039;m home on the east coast. Sometimes people just figure I&#039;m from wherever they&#039;re from. And somehow I still confuse people who want to know where I&#039;m reeeaallly from, which gets complicated to explain. lol. But Jersey is just not a satisfactory answer, apparently. What&#039;s funny to me is that my &quot;white&quot; friends whose parents are also immigrants never seem to go through this identity confusion or get these questions. :P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Love this! Had the exact same experience living here and in Pak. I feel more Desi being in the States but felt more American while in Pak. I still get spoken to in Spanish esp. when I&#8217;m home on the east coast. Sometimes people just figure I&#8217;m from wherever they&#8217;re from. And somehow I still confuse people who want to know where I&#8217;m reeeaallly from, which gets complicated to explain. lol. But Jersey is just not a satisfactory answer, apparently. What&#8217;s funny to me is that my &#8220;white&#8221; friends whose parents are also immigrants never seem to go through this identity confusion or get these questions. <img src='http://evakhurshid.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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